Thursday, April 28, 2005

Debt collectors too ashamed to tell their kids the truth.

Debt collectors are ashamed of what they do


In a recent discussion on a sleazy debt collector's forum the following conversation took place.

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SPAR7AN117
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 10:28am | IP Logged

So I have two tag alongs with me today, my oldest daughter and son, who
got a day off from school to learn about the collections industry, what
specifically I do, etc etc.

I will report back later with the status, but was wondering who else had
the same opportunity, or would ever take their children to work with
them? What would they do? What would you teach them?
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I have and would take my girls to work. In the past, I just let them sit in my office and watch cartoons or play with toys. If I was going to teach them anything about the industry, I would teach them that if people borrow money, bill collectors will monitor them to make sure they do not try and steal the money they borrowed. I would keep it about that simple, because I really want my girls to do something else with their lives.

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Zig says " If I was going to teach them anything about the industry, I would teach them that if people borrow money, bill collectors will monitor them to make sure they do not try and steal the money they borrowed."

If Zig is going to teach that lie to his girls he ought to finish it by adding the following to it: "and government has to police debt collectors so they don't abuse people or steal the money that belongs to the banks and credit card companies. "

He is so ashamed of what he does that he freely admits that "I really want my girls to do something else with their lives."

I would certainly hope so and so should all of us. Seems to this author that a parent who is a debt collector and even allows their children to be exposed to such an environment as a debt collector's work place ought to be prosecuted for child abuse.

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"Cardman" aka "Uncle Normie" seems to miss the whole point of my posting to this group. His poor befuddled mind is so filled up with writing trash on forums and message boards like a child writing grafitti on bathroom walls that he somehow imagines that my postings have something to do with something called "creditwrench" and having no other handle to grasp he childishly beats on that subject.

The topic of conversation has nothing whatever to do with the selling of some product or service but rather exposing debt collectors for the wierdos and sickos that most of them are and informing the public about the collection industry and it's so called "professionalism" which of course does not exist except in their minds.

That is what irritates the pooch who calls himself "Uncle Normie" and also "Lawdog" as well as "cartman". The truth is that the only cart that cartman can associate himself with is usually known as a manure spreader. In his lame efforts to discredit he makes a posting here in which he states the following.

"This is an example of the responses you get from Creditwrench AKA Billie Bauer to a direct question on statute of limitations"

This isn't about Creditwrench or Billie Bauer or about any one individual at all but rather about the collection industry as a whole and the so-called "professionalism" they would like to fool people into believing they practice. Few if any here are interested in "Creditwrench" or Billie Bauer or Cartman's silly blog. None of that is at issue here. The only thing that is at issue here is the sleaze bags who infest the collection industry, abusing and harassing people who probably do not have a job or who have fallen on hard times one way or the other.

Cartman abundantly proves that he is on some kind of personal vendetta against something entirely different than the subject matter at hand. Since he chooses to spam this group just as he has 120,000 newsgroups multiple times using the dingo anonymous remailer in order to promote his private commercial agenda we can all just ignore his spamming as all the newsgroups have done and get on with the discussion of the evil tactics of debt collectors and why we should all know better than to pay them anything.

Why is it that they will never give anyone a receipt for the money if we are so foolish as to pay them anything? Any normal business will give a receipt for money paid but not a debt collector.

Can it be that if there is no receipt it will be much more difficult for the creditor who is hoping to collect at least some small portion of what is owed him to prove that the very person or company he trusted to collect the debt has now turned into a deadbeat himself? If you think that couldn't happen then I ask why is it that so many states demand that debt collectors be licensed, bonded, insured and maintain escrow accounts into which they must put money owed to their clients but not yet paid to them and account for that money? Is it to somehow protect consumers??? Not on your life it isn't. It is required of them because they have a history of stealing that money and never accounting for it then selling the debt to yet another debt collector who starts the process all over again.

There is good reason why the states demand license of debt collectors. They are thieves, scoundrels and scumbags and paying them only perpetrates their frauds therefore, if if you want to do the right thing by paying what you owe you should never pay them from a personal or business checking account, never give them access to any of your banking or credit card information but should always use a bank certified cashier's check and send it by certified mail return receipt requested and you should always make photo copies of the check before you send it. If you don't do that you may wake up one day a few years down the road to find out that some scumbag collection agency has bought the debt you paid long ago and is now coming back demanding that you pay yet once again.

That is the way the scumbags do business, but nobody except cartman-normie is trying to sell anybody anything here.