Wednesday, September 15, 2004

I see that the resident rooster over at one of the message boards has published a litany of garbage in the collection industry rag which has brought him great numbers of OOOOOOOOOOs and Ahhhhhhhhhs from all his bended knee followers who are, of course, either too awed by the resident rooster's loud crowing to realize just how dumb their "tip sheet" author really is or they are too scared of getting the boot if they do.

The ludicrous bit of pigeon poop I refer to is to be found atBill Lindala vividly displaying his ignorance yet once again.

Needless to say, I would not disgrace this blog by actually posting any of the garbage here nor would I give him or his employers any link credits by posting an actual link but clicking on the line above will get you to the latest pidgeon poop.

In his propaganda he spews out the thought that debtors are heading for the courtrooms in droves filing frivolous lawsuits on debt collectors over the most trivial of issues. While his words are true in that the oneseys and twoseys from a couple of message boards probably do represent record numbers they most assuredly do not represent "droves" of debtors filing lawsuits against collectors. At best there might be maybe 50 or so people out there filing lawsuits on debt collectors over trivial, technical issues.

Even so, almost none of them have ever won enough money out of it to have been really worth the time and trouble it took them to do the dumb deed. A few hundred or maybe even a thousand or two at best. Not even enough to make a debt collector bat an eyelash.

But to make the ignorance of the article even more apparent Bill Lindala don't even know the LEGAL meaning of the word "FRIVOLOUS" and so comes up claiming that it means
friv·o·lous:

1. Unworthy of serious attention; trivial: a frivolous novel.
2. Inappropriately silly: a frivolous purchase.


thereby proving that he hasn't a clue as to the LEGAL meaning of the word frivolous when used in the context he attempted to use it in really is.

In LEGAL terms, the word frivolous means
without merit and not what he claims it means.

When I filed and won my last lawsuit against an attorney in the amount of $100,000 plus other damages and attorney fees plus court costs it was because he filed a truly
frivolous lawsuit against me. It had no merit whatsoever, just like Bill Lindala's wildly-proclaimed-by-resident-idiot-debt-collectors article wherein he does a beautiful job of showing just how brain washed he has become by listening to and buying into the hawgwash propaganda on an internet message board.

The real danger to deadbeat chasers is that they will hire a dumb lawyer to file suit on people and the dumb lawyer files a frivolous suit on the consumer who not only shoots it down in court but then goes back and files a huge damage suit on both the lawyer and the debt collector. In otherwords, as usual, the payback is hell indeed.

Lindala then proceeds to further show his great ignorance by means of the following ejaculation. In this industry, the phrase frivolous lawsuit has become synonymous with the phrase technical violation. In most cases, if an agency is faced with a lawsuit that they consider frivolous, Well, maybe in "this industry" meaning debt collections, frivolous lawsuit really has become synonymous with the phrase "technical violation" but not in the lexicon of anyone who actually does know what the term really does mean. In otherwords, if such indeed be true then they have coined a phrase and made it mean something to them that it don't mean to normal knowledgeable people. So in typical mobster fashion they have taken a phrase which has a true and legally accepted meaning and turned it into a jargon meaningful to only a few in their gang. Something like "HEY DUDE, LEAVE THAT MUTHA ALONE CUZ HE IS ONE BAD MUTHA" meaning of course that the "bad DUDE" is a good person in the eyes of the "hood" and should be left alone.

Bill Lindala however easily demonstrates his prowess as a "great writer" by means of the extreme amount of errors he makes in his writing. Here are a few prime examples taken directly from the rag.

In the very first paragraph he comes up with the following gem. awhole.

Then follows that a few lines down with result ofa technical and just a bit later repeats the display of his great literary talent with that atechnical

He also goes on to display his supposedly great understanding of the law by quoting the following In most situations, it’s used by a judge who says something like“...it would be erroneous to award (the) plaintiff fees for motions on which she did not prevail… which he snatched up from a judge's decision in a court case and claims that ”Basically, the judge is saying that it was a frivolous lawsuit and the person suing should not benefit from it -- especially when they weren’t successful.

The case he most likely took the wording from was a case in which the plaintiff did win on at least one minor point but lost most of the case yet came back and appealed the original judge's decision that the plaintiff could not collect "attorney fees" when she did not win her case entirely. To have even stood a chance to sue for "attorney fees" as a pro se she would have had to win her case in it's entirety, not just prevail on one or two minor points while losing the major portion of the battle.

Bill Lindala also shows his great ignorance of the law and how the courts have ruled when he discusses the issue of overshadowing which means that during the period of time covered by the miranda notice that must be contained in all initial written communications with the debtor the debtor has 30 days from the time he receives the letter to dispute the debt or any portion thereof. The law and the courts hold the position that any threat of action or demand for action that might cause the debtor to falsely believe that the collector's demand for more immediate action lest he suffer some adverse consequence which the debtor has reason to fear causes him to overlook the fact that he first of all has 30 days to dispute the debt or any portion thereof. That is what constitutes "overshadowing".

Further illuminating his great display of ignorace, Bill Lindala goes on to proclaim the following. I mentioned the consumer message boards in last month’s column and my takeon the whole thing was, “Hey, we don’t have to worry, as long as we know what’s going on and with that knowledge, we can protect ourselves.” I mayhave been a little premature with that statement. Notice that I didn’t saythat I might have been wrong? Part of that could be my ego, but the other part is that I don’t know (yet) if I truly am wrong. What I do know is that the consumer message boards cannot be ignored by this industry.

That is quite possibly one of the greatest truths that Lindala might have uttered in all of his literary??? blatherings. Problem is that he, like the rest of his ilk don't even realize that the boards they frequent are not even close to being of danger to them. A few isolated lawsuits against a few equally isolated collection agencies is not even a minor threat to their industry but rather just a scarecrow that obviously has them badly spooked. The real threat is not from a few lawsuits filed by a very minor number of loose cannons rolling around their decks but rather the vast and ever increasing number of cases they are losing in court when filing motions for summary judgment against debtors who are listening to a different drummer , namely Creditwrench. So far this year, not one lawsuit against a CREDITWRENCH student has been successful. They (debt collectors) have lost each and every one of them! And not one message board the debt collectors frequent has ever mentioned that in their idle chattering about how they file piddling little lawsuits against debt
collectors obviously too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

While I could keep on pointing out Bill Lindala's ignorance and utter lack of understanding, I will refrain and at least temporarily close with noting the fact that he at least got one thing right when he wrote the following. when it comes to this business and worst of all, they want you to pay.

And pay you will, and not in terms of just a piddling few thousand dollars but more likely in the loss of millions of dollars worth of law suits that you didn't have a crying chance of winning in the first place.

Since I seriously doubt that this dumbass article by wannabe author Bill Lindala who also has signed his name to various messages as blindala thereby revealing his true inner self will remain on public display for very long I have copied it to a file which can be used for later reference if necessary.

Hmmm. Seems ole stiffer has brought up a point worth mentioning for a change. Here it is.

"I am disgusted by the number of the people on that board who have lied and denied their debts, sent validation letters for debts they owed, and then bragged about the increase to their scores."

This has to be the epitome of hypocrisy. This poster makes use of the LAW to "discharge" her debts through bankruptcy, then condemns those that choose another means of avoidance. No, honey, you're no longer a debtor, but get off the ivory tower. It isn't because you PAID your debts. I think this poster more disgusted (or envious?) she didn't make her way to those "boards" BEFORE she filed. There is no one more self-righteous than a debtor who pays, or has their obligations discharged in bankruptcy.

"But, I don't owe money, I am not a deadbeat. They are."

The only difference between you and them is your bankruptcy petition. I'm not a particular proponent of AoC tactics, but this poster's sanctimony really "disgusts" ME...Was she truly any less unjustly enriched than the common barrato on AoC? I think not.


Millions of Americans make this same error in judgment one way or the other. They think that filing bankruptcy somehow enriches them or somehow eliminates their problems. It really don't. All it does is trade one kind of problem for another and usually only temporarily at that.

Creditwrench beats bankruptcy by far because not only is there no debt left there is also no public record left and there very well may be a goodly amount of cash left over to help insure that new problems won't occur in the future and if they do they can also be taken care of in the same manner and without the horrendous expenses and lawyer fees that have to be paid when one files bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy seems like the easy way out but in truth there is no easy way out. You either learn and work for what you get or you pay a very high price for it.

Since creditwrench does exactly the same thing that bankruptcy does and for a lot less money, bankruptcy is a very stupid choice indeed. In fact, about the only thing that is more ignorant than bankruptcy is following the advice of such looney tunes universities as Art of Credit and screwing around with your credit ratings which is about the dumbest thing one can do because although it might clean up your credit it don't stop the debt collector from hounding you to death and filing lawsuits on you.

All it amounts to is an ostrich game of seeing how long you can keep your head buried in the sands of credit repair tricks without getting eaten by the resident jackals.